{"id":231,"date":"2020-02-16T15:30:33","date_gmt":"2020-02-16T14:30:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.leti.lt\/wordpress\/?p=231"},"modified":"2020-06-10T08:02:06","modified_gmt":"2020-06-10T06:02:06","slug":"danseforum-themeetproblematisation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.leti.lt\/wordpress\/danseforum-themeetproblematisation\/","title":{"rendered":"Th\u00e8me et probl\u00e9matisation"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.leti.lt\/wordpress\/danseforum-danseforum\/\">Danse forum<\/a><br>\u2192<a href=\"https:\/\/www.leti.lt\/wordpress\/danseforum-laproblematisation\/\">La pro\u00adbl\u00e9\u00adma\u00adti\u00adsa\u00adtion<\/a><br><br>!! Th\u00e8me et pro\u00adbl\u00e9\u00adma\u00adti\u00adsa\u00adtion \u2013 juillet 2007<br><br>Nous avons d\u00e9cou\u00advert que la \u00ab&nbsp;danse de l\u2019instant&nbsp;\u00bb, par un ou plu\u00adsieurs<br>dan\u00adseurs, fait que le th\u00e8me appa\u00adra\u00eet de fa\u00e7on sou\u00adja\u00adcente et<br>inat\u00adten\u00addue sans qu\u2019on ait cher\u00adch\u00e9 \u00e0&nbsp;le d\u00e9fi\u00adnir en amont de la danse.<br>Il se r\u00e9v\u00e8le kal\u00e9i\u00addo\u00adsco\u00adpique, en autant de formes que de<br>pro\u00adta\u00adgo\u00adnistes dan\u00adseurs ou spec\u00adta\u00adteurs&nbsp;: cha\u00adcun \u00ab&nbsp;recr\u00e9e&nbsp;\u00bb l\u2019\u009c\u0153uvre selon<br>son his\u00adtoire et son v\u00e9cu, en la dan\u00adsant ou en la regar\u00addant. Cha\u00adcun<br>lui met un sens, un th\u00e8me ou un titre.<br><br>Nom\u00admer le th\u00e8me avant de dan\u00adser selon l\u2019instant et le \u00ab&nbsp;moment<br>d\u00e9ci\u00adsif&nbsp;\u00bb ne peut \u00e0&nbsp;pre\u00admi\u00e8re vue pas se faire. Si je ne pense pas le<br>geste, m\u00eame une micro seconde avant de le r\u00e9a\u00adli\u00adser, com\u00adment pen\u00adser le<br>th\u00e8me (abs\u00adtrait ou nar\u00adra\u00adtif) avant qu\u2019il se r\u00e9v\u00e8le de lui-m\u00eame sans<br>nuire \u00e0&nbsp;la spon\u00adta\u00adn\u00e9i\u00adt\u00e9 de la danse&nbsp;?<br><br>Mais nous avons d\u00e9cou\u00advert que le th\u00e8me peut deve\u00adnir un \u00e9l\u00e9\u00adment de<br>l\u2019environnement comme peut l\u2019\u00eatre la musique qui accom\u00adpagne la danse,<br>et tout ce qui forme son envi\u00adron\u00adne\u00adment (le temps impar\u00adti, l\u2019espace<br>dis\u00adpo\u00adnible, la consis\u00adtance du sol, une consigne, les spec\u00adta\u00adteurs etc.)<br><br>Ce qui se joue alors, c\u2019est notre posi\u00adtion par rap\u00adport au th\u00e8me<br>plu\u00adt\u00f4t que la per\u00adti\u00adnence de l\u2019existence du th\u00e8me ou non.<br><br>Soit le th\u00e8me est au centre de notre cr\u00e9a\u00adti\u00advi\u00adt\u00e9, avec le risque de<br>l\u2019illustration \u00e0&nbsp;chaque pas. Soit il fait par\u00adti de l\u2019environnement,<br>dont aucun \u00e9l\u00e9\u00adment ne sou\u00admet la danse \u00e0&nbsp;ses exi\u00adgences.<br><br>C\u2019est d\u00e9j\u00e0 ce qu\u2019avait d\u00e9cou\u00advert John Cage, en reven\u00addi\u00adquant<br>l\u2019autonomie des arts mis en pr\u00e9\u00adsence sur une m\u00eame sc\u00e8ne. La musique<br>ne doit pas \u00eatre au ser\u00advice de la danse ni la danse au ser\u00advice de la<br>musique, si l\u2019on ne veut pas ampu\u00adter chaque art et dire deux fois la<br>m\u00eame chose, visuel\u00adle\u00adment et audi\u00adti\u00adve\u00adment.<br><br>De la m\u00eame fa\u00e7on, on peut appr\u00e9\u00adhen\u00adder le th\u00e8me comme un \u00e9l\u00e9\u00adment<br>auto\u00adnome de notre danse, ce qui ne veut pas dire s\u00e9pa\u00adr\u00e9 et sans lien.<br>Sim\u00adple\u00adment, le th\u00e8me et la danse sont comme les conjoints d\u2019un couple<br>qui aurait tout com\u00adpris de la vie&nbsp;: deux liber\u00adt\u00e9s ensemble et non pas<br>deux moi\u00adti\u00e9s de liber\u00adt\u00e9 qui se contr\u00f4lent r\u00e9ci\u00adpro\u00adque\u00adment.<br><br>En nom\u00admant le th\u00e8me avant de le dan\u00adser sur l\u2019espace sc\u00e9\u00adnique de la<br>danse forum, nous pre\u00adnons un risque&nbsp;: soit le choix est bon et le<br>forum se d\u00e9roule \u00ab&nbsp;roya\u00adle\u00adment&nbsp;\u00bb, c\u2019est \u00e0&nbsp;dire de fa\u00e7on enri\u00adchis\u00adsante<br>pour tous. Soit le choix tombe \u00e0&nbsp;c\u00f4t\u00e9 du res\u00adsen\u00adti des dan\u00adseurs, et la<br>gal\u00e8re se met en route sans que per\u00adsonne ne puisse l\u2019arr\u00eater ni m\u00eame<br>l\u2019orienter. La frus\u00adtra\u00adtion per\u00addure jusqu\u2019au bout, \u00e0&nbsp;moins d\u2019arr\u00eater<br>le forum et choi\u00adsir un autre th\u00e8me (ce que nous n\u2019avons jamais fait,<br>tant le sen\u00adti\u00adment d\u2019\u00e9chec serait fort, pro\u00adba\u00adble\u00adment!).<br><br>L\u2019\u00e9mergence du th\u00e8me \u00ab&nbsp;ad\u00e9\u00adquat&nbsp;\u00bb tient tou\u00adjours du miracle. Il nous<br>est arri\u00adv\u00e9 sou\u00advent de r\u00e9a\u00adli\u00adser que nous n\u2019avions pas choi\u00adsi \u00ab&nbsp;le bon<br>th\u00e8me&nbsp;\u00bb du moment&nbsp;: soit nous sommes par\u00adtis d\u2019une id\u00e9e intel\u00adlec\u00adtuelle<br>(par exemple le th\u00e8me du \u00ab&nbsp;centre&nbsp;\u00bb comme don\u00adn\u00e9e anthro\u00adpo\u00adlo\u00adgique), soit<br>de l\u2019histoire adop\u00adt\u00e9e par rap\u00adport \u00e0&nbsp;une seule per\u00adsonne du groupe (\u00ab&nbsp;la<br>m\u00e9fiance&nbsp;\u00bb par exemple), soit le th\u00e8me a&nbsp;d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e9t\u00e9 inves\u00adti mille fois<br>de mille fa\u00e7ons par l\u2019ensemble des arts du spec\u00adtacle, et cela devient<br>dif\u00adfi\u00adcile de sor\u00adtir des sche\u00adma (\u00ab&nbsp;le masque&nbsp;\u00bb par exemple).<br><br>Lorsque le th\u00e8me \u00ab&nbsp;tombe juste&nbsp;\u00bb, il nous ins\u00adpire sans nous perdre dans<br>les nimbes, il nous struc\u00adture sans nous contraindre, il nous rend<br>cr\u00e9a\u00adtifs sans redon\u00addance.<br><br>Je vois le th\u00e8me dans la \u00ab&nbsp;danse de l\u2019instant&nbsp;\u00bb comme une trame qui<br>s\u2019\u00e9labore en m\u00eame temps que se tisse l\u2019\u0153\u009cuvre&nbsp;: une \u009c\u0153uvre qui fait<br>sens, m\u00eame si elle n\u2019a pas de sens, ou si elle en a&nbsp;plu\u00adsieurs. Plus<br>la trame reste invi\u00adsible, plus l\u2019\u009c\u0153uvre se r\u00e9v\u00e8le.<br><br>La pro\u00adbl\u00e9\u00adma\u00adtique, elle, ne va pas s\u2019\u00e9laborer \u00e0&nbsp;par\u00adtir du th\u00e8me, mais<br>\u00e0 par\u00adtir du ren\u00addu du th\u00e8me, de ce qu\u2019il aura per\u00admis de cr\u00e9er.<br><br>Je rap\u00adpelle en deux mots en quoi consiste la pro\u00adbl\u00e9\u00adma\u00adti\u00adsa\u00adtion<br>(concept d\u00e9ve\u00adlop\u00adp\u00e9 par Pau\u00adlo Freire), que l\u2019on pour\u00adrait r\u00e9su\u00admer ain\u00adsi&nbsp;:<br><br>- il y&nbsp;a au d\u00e9part un \u00e9v\u00e9\u00adne\u00adment.<br><br>- cha\u00adcun r\u00e9agit \u00e0&nbsp;cet \u00e9v\u00e9\u00adne\u00adment en fonc\u00adtion de son his\u00adtoire, de son<br>v\u00e9cu, de son exp\u00e9\u00adrience etc. Jusque l\u00e0, c\u2019est ce qui se passe au<br>quo\u00adti\u00addien.<br><br>- ces r\u00e9ac\u00adtions sont mises en com\u00admun pour \u00e9la\u00adbo\u00adrer une r\u00e9flexion, en<br>d\u00e9pas\u00adsant les juge\u00adments indi\u00advi\u00adduels, en uti\u00adli\u00adsant les exp\u00e9r\u00adtises de<br>cha\u00adcun, en mul\u00adti\u00adpliant les points de vue etc.<br><br>- de cette r\u00e9flexion na\u00eet l\u2019action, qui va faire l\u2019\u00e9v\u00e9nement, qui va<br>pro\u00adduire des r\u00e9ac\u00adtions\u2026, et cela conti\u00adnue comme la Fat\u00adma, mais<br>nor\u00adma\u00adle\u00adment sans tour\u00adner en rond. Les indi\u00advi\u00addus ne sont plus tout \u00e0<br>fait dans les m\u00eames r\u00e9flexes de juge\u00adment ou de pen\u00ads\u00e9e, de par cet<br>\u00e9change de points de vue, et le recul pris, et leurs actes sont<br>sus\u00adcep\u00adtibles d\u2019\u00e9voluer\u2026 sur sc\u00e8ne comme dans la vie.<br><br>Ce qui semble se des\u00adsi\u00adner en danse forum, c\u2019est que la pro\u00adbl\u00e9\u00adma\u00adtique<br>ne prend pas la forme qu\u2019elle conna\u00eet en th\u00e9\u00e2tre forum, forme qui<br>suit celle du lan\u00adgage arti\u00adcu\u00adl\u00e9. Face \u00e0&nbsp;la po\u00e9\u00adsie du non dit, non<br>lin\u00e9aire et non cau\u00adsal, \u00e0&nbsp;entr\u00e9es mul\u00adtiples dans le temps et dans<br>l\u2019espace, ne serait-il pas nor\u00admal que la pro\u00adbl\u00e9\u00adma\u00adtique soit elle<br>aus\u00adsi \u00e0&nbsp;entr\u00e9es mul\u00adtiples, non lin\u00e9aire et non cau\u00adsale, arti\u00adcu\u00adl\u00e9e<br>ges\u00adtuel\u00adle\u00adment mais pas for\u00adcem\u00adment \u00ab&nbsp;dite&nbsp;\u00bb&nbsp;?<br><br>Car c\u2019est bien de fait ce qui se pro\u00adduit. Nous en avons sou\u00advent<br>par\u00adl\u00e9. Nous ne trou\u00advons pas une pro\u00adbl\u00e9\u00adma\u00adtique mais plu\u00adsieurs<br>simul\u00adta\u00adn\u00e9es ou qui s\u2019encha\u00eenent rapi\u00adde\u00adment, \u00e0&nbsp;plu\u00adsieurs niveaux, qui<br>\u00e9vo\u00adluent au rythme des ins\u00adtants d\u00e9ci\u00adsifs qui les ont ins\u00adpi\u00adr\u00e9es.<br>C\u2019est en tous cas \u00e0&nbsp;creu\u00adser\u2026<br><br>Andr\u00e9ine Bel<\/p>\n<p style=\"color:green; text-align:right !important;\">Article cr\u00e9\u00e9 le 16\/02\/2020 \u2013 modi\u00adfi\u00e9 le 10\/06\/2020<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Danse forum\u2192La pro\u00adbl\u00e9\u00adma\u00adti\u00adsa\u00adtion !! Th\u00e8me et pro\u00adbl\u00e9\u00adma\u00adti\u00adsa\u00adtion \u2013 juillet 2007 Nous avons d\u00e9cou\u00advert que la \u00ab&nbsp;danse de l\u2019instant&nbsp;\u00bb, par un ou plu\u00adsieursdan\u00adseurs, fait que le th\u00e8me appa\u00adra\u00eet de fa\u00e7on sou\u00adja\u00adcente etinat\u00adten\u00addue sans qu\u2019on ait cher\u00adch\u00e9 \u00e0&nbsp;le d\u00e9fi\u00adnir en amont de la danse\u200b.Il se r\u00e9v\u00e8le kal\u00e9i\u00addo\u00adsco\u00adpique, en autant de formes que depro\u00adta\u00adgo\u00adnistes dan\u00adseurs ou spec\u00adta\u00adteurs&nbsp;: cha\u00adcun \u00ab&nbsp;recr\u00e9e&nbsp;\u00bb l\u2019\u009c\u0153uvre selon\u00adson his\u00adtoire et son v\u00e9cu, en la dan\u00adsant ou en la regar\u00addant. Cha\u00adcunlui met un sens, un th\u00e8me ou un&nbsp;titre. Nom\u00admer le&nbsp;th\u00e8me&nbsp;[\u2026]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"wp_typography_post_enhancements_disabled":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[36],"tags":[217],"class_list":["post-231","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-la_problematisation","tag-danseforum"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Th\u00e8me et probl\u00e9matisation - Le TILT<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.leti.lt\/wordpress\/danseforum-themeetproblematisation\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Th\u00e8me et probl\u00e9matisation - Le TILT\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Danse forum\u2192La pro\u00adbl\u00e9\u00adma\u00adti\u00adsa\u00adtion !! 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